Witness Deposition – Thomas Mowbray – 8 Oct 1686

Document Type: Witness Deposition
Date: 8 Oct 1686
Correspondent: Thomas Mowbray
Archive Source: TNA E134 2Jas2 Mich 42
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Thomas Mowbray of Wolsingham in the County of Durham yeom[an] aged Forty yeares or thereabouts Sworne & Examined saith as followeth



4  To the Fourth Interrogatory this Depon[en]t saith that there has been wrought out of the Def[endan]tes Mines at the p[ar]ish of Stanhop from the moneth of February In the yeare of our Lord God One Thousand Six Hundred Seventy Six and the last of January in the yeare of our Lord One Thousand Six Hundred Eighty & Four dureing all which time this Depon[en]t was Employed by the s[ai]d Compl[ainan]t to take and Accompt the number or Quantity of forty nine Thousand two Hundred & twenty horse loads of Lead Oare & Sixty Seven Waine Loads which makes up in all Twelve Thousand Four Hundred Thirty Seven bing loades two horses & Eighty pokes of Oar that was soe wrought in the mines afores[ai]d as this Depon[en]t was informed by sev[er]all of the Def[endan]tes Lead Oare Carryers And Saith that he this Depon[en]t was Employed by the Compl[ainan]t to take an Accompt of what Quantities of Oar came from the Def[endan]tes Mines to his Smelting Mills at Scotch  Eale  Mill & Stanhop hope Mill dureing all the time afores[ai]d w[hi]ch this Depon[en]t was as Exacting as he could And this Depon[en]t saith that one Ralph <Dawkin> was himselfe Employed by the s[ai]d Compl[ainan]t to take an Accompt of Oar Carryed from the s[ai]d Mines to the s[ai]d Smelting Mills w[hi]ch said <Dawkin> gave an Accompt to this Depon[en]t that there was from the Nineteenth of September One Thousand Six Hundred Seventy & Seven till the Tenth of October One Thousand Six Hundred Seventy & Seven Three Hundred Sixty Five horse loades of Oar carryed from the s[ai]d Mines to the s[ai]d Scotch Eal Mill which makes Ninety One Bings & One horse load of Oar And this Depon[en]t further saith that he had an Accompt from one John Sand[er]s who was Employed by the Compl[ainan]t w[hi]ch said John Sanders gave this Depon[en]t an Accompt that from the Eleventh of September Anno Dm [Domini]  1677: till the one & thirtieth of January :1684: Carryed of Oar from the s[ai]d Def[endan]tes Mines to the s[ai]d Smelting Mills the further number or quantity of Nineteen Thousand Nine Hundred & Forty Five horse loads of Oar which makes out in number Four Thousand Nine Hundred Eighty & Six Bings & One horse load of Oar w[hi]ch were taken by Talleyes by the said John Saunders And this Depon[en]t further saith that on the Eighteenth & Nineteenth dayes of October Anno Dm [Domini] 1676 there was Carryed from the s[ai]d Mines to the s[ai]d Mills in this Depon[en]ts absence which John Mowbray the Compl[ainan]ts Agent gave an Accompt on to this Depon[en]t  by Talley Eighty seven horse load of Oar which makes out in number Twenty One Bing loades & Three horse load of Oar  And further saith that <one> John Sidgewick before this Depon[en]t began to take an Accompt of the said Oar gave an Accompt to this Depon[en]t that there was brought from the s[ai]d Def[endan]tes Mines to Stanhop hope Mill Fourteen horse loads which makes out Three Bings  & Two horse load of Oar And this Depon[en]t further saith that the said John Mowbray servant to the s[ai]d Compl[ainan]t gave this Depon[en]t an accompt that there was Carryed from the Def[endan]tes Mines to Stanhop hope Mill in this Depon[en]ts absence from his s[ai]d Employm[en]t w[hi]ch was Carryed Six dayes in Aprill in the yeare of our Lord 1678: the further number or quantity of Two & thirty horse loads of Oar which makes out Eight Bing loads of Oar that was taken by Talley And further saith that the s[ai]d John Mowbray gave this Depon[en]t a further Accompt that there was Carryed from the s[ai]d Def[endan]tes Mines to Stanhop hope Mill in this Depon[en]ts absence taken in Talley the further number of Forty One horse load of Oar which makes out Ten Bings & one horse load which was carryed upon the Fifth Sixth Seventh Eighth Ninth & Tenth of August in the yeare 1678 : as the s[ai]d John  Mowbray gave this Depon[en]t an Accompt of And this Depon[en]t further saith that one Thomas Dixon who was Employed by the Compl[ainan]t or Some by his ord[e]r to take an Accompt of Oar gave to this Depon[en]t an Accompt that there was carryed from the s[ai]d Def[endan]tes Mines to Scotch Eale Mill by Talleyes in this Depon[en]ts absence the further quantityes or number of Eighty Seven horse load of Oar w[hi]ch makes One &twenty bing loades & one horse load which was soe carryed the 21: 22: & 23  of June 1679: as the said Thomas Dixon gave an Accompt to this Depon[en]t And this Depon[en]t further saith that one George Garthorne Another Employed by the s[ai]d Compl[ainan]t gave this Deponent an Accompt that from the Four & twentieth day of June 1679: till the Seventeenth of July 1679: there was carryed from the said Def[endan]tes Mines to Scotch Eale Mill the further number or Quantity of Four Hundred Fifty & five horse load of Oar which is in Number One Hundred & Thirteen Bing loades & Three horse loades  of Oar taken by Talley as the s[ai]d George Garthorne gave this Depon[en]t an Accompt And this Depon[en]t further saith that one Michael Byers gave this Depon[en]t an Accompt by writeing that there was carryed from the s[ai]d Mines to Scotch Eale Mill afores[ai]d the Twenty Eighth Twenty Ninth Thirtieth & One & Thirtieth of July 1679: as alsoe upon the First & Second of August 1679: the further number or quantity of One Hundred & Twelve horse load of Oar which makes up in number Eight & Twenty Bing loads of Oar And further saith that <Joshua> Wilson likewise gave this Depon[en]t an Accompt in writeing that there was carryed from the s[ai]d Mines to Scotch Eale Mill upon the Second Third Fourth Fifth Sixth Seventh, Eighth, Ninth & Tenth of June 1682 the number or quantity of Two Hundred Eighty & Six horse loades of Oar which makes up in number Seventy One Bing loades of Oar & two horse loades  And saith that John <Toward> likewise gave to this Depon[en]t an Accompt of in writeing that there was Carryed from the s[ai]d Def[endan]tes Mines to Scotch Eale Mill afores[ai]d the Sixteenth Seventeenth Eighteenth Nineteenth, Twentieth, One & twentieth, Two & twentieth, Three & twentieth, Four & twentieth, & Five & twentieth dayes of August 1680: the further number or Quantity of Two Hundred Thirty & Four horse loades of Oar w[hi]ch makes out in number Fifty Eight bing loades of Oar & two horse loades  And this Depon[en]t further saith that on the First Second & [about ten words missing] one Albany Forster now dec[ease]d then a Carryer of Lead Oar for the s[ai]d Def[endan]te & another p[er]son whose name this Depon[en]t knows not  Carry Forty <seven> horse load of Oare w[hi]ch they told this Depon[en]t they brought from <redd> grove to Scotch Eale Mill which s[ai]d Oare they carryed to the s[ai]d mill by <Weers> loaneing being a private way & where use Carryage of Lead Oar has been carryed that way before that Ever this Depon[en]t heard or see which sev[er]all Accompts this Depon[en]t took as afores[ai]d as Agent for the s[ai]d Compl[ainan]t And this Depon[en]t further saith that dureing the time of this Depon[en]ts being Employed as afores[ai]d that he this Depon[en]t has knowne & seene at sev[er]all times & at sev[er]all houres in the night time that the Def[endan]tes Carryers of Lead Oar have Carryed the s[ai]d Lead Oar sometimes an hour or two or <.....> of every day & sometimes sooner in the night time And saith that he this Depon[en]t has <heard …..> of the s[ai]d Def[endan]tes Carryers of Lead Oar say & declare that they sometimes Carryed lead Oar from the s[ai]d Lead Mines of the Def[endan]tes to the s[ai]d Def[endan]tes Mill in the night time And in p[ar]ticular this Depon[en]t has heard one John <F.d…> & Cuthbert Phillipson Carryers for the s[ai]d Def[endan]tes say & declare as much



10 To the Tenth Interrogatory this Depon[en]t saith that he being at Stanhopp hope Mill afores[ai]d on or about the yeare 1678: to take an accompt of Lead Oare for the s[ai]d Compl[ainan]t w[hi]ch was brought from the s[ai]d Def[endan]tes Mines to that Mill he this Depon[en]t was discharged by One John Philipson then Steward to the said Def[endan]te & told this Depon[en]t he might not come near the said Mill  And if he this Depon[en]t did at his p[er]ill or to that Effect

                                                                                                                         	Thomas Mowbray
Witness on behalf of Bishop Crewe in answer to Crewe's interrogatories. See 8 Oct 1686 'Questions to witnesses' Nathaniel Crewe, interrogatories, and notes given there for background to the case.

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